Project MOAN: Mother of All Nodes


#201

I cut across the circuit board at the trace that runs vertical on the left as you look at the board with the fractal on top. Now the fractal is disconnected. I would cut about 1/16 inch gap. Then scrape away the green masking to expose the gold plated trace on the bottom side of the cut of the trace that goes to the capacitor and solder the center conductor to the shiny scraped area… Once that is done, solder the braid to the ground trace. It sort of circles around the outer perimeter of the board. The solder blob across the top of capacitor is the easiest for me using the modified iron tip. The ground trace has a bunch of holes drilled in it so it is easy to spot. Be careful that the braid doesn’t have any wire “whiskers” that could short something out! Once you have done all that, use a clip to hold the coax to the top of the circuit board and put some 5 min epoxy on it to secure it to the board.
It is kinda scary but just be careful and take your time. BTW I used a small diameter coax such as RG/174. Send me your address by email and I will send you a piece of Teflon jacketed coax with a SMA male on the end.


#202

Hey y’all! MOAN update for everyone. Some important stuff here…

  1. If you’re using SLA batteries for your MOAN use this charger (it won’t try to burn down your house!): Orion Motor Tech 12V 1.2A Sealed Lead Acid SLA Battery Trickle Charger Maintainer Lite https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014QXL438?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
    Yes, the other charger I was using seriously tried to burn my house down, good thing I was home! I of course DONT want this to happen to any of you! IF YOU HAVE THE POS CHARGER TOSS IT!!!:


  2. I put a second 7Ah battery in the MOAN just to up the overall battery life. Having to get up on the roof ever two weeks or so was getting to be a pain in the ass.

  3. I made a Facebook group for anyone in or around the Seattle area so we can get the Seattle Mesh network seriously coms up. If you’re in the Seattle area please feel free to join the group! Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/groups/150307268936833

  4. Going to be making some more MOAN Mesh units this weekend!

  5. Next project is going to be making a mini MOAN!


#203

If you’re planning your own network you NEED to use this site! It will really help you with radio line of sight and as such with placement of units! Special thanks to @ShootAnyAngle!!!


#204

Seriously @ShootAnyAngle THANK YOU! I now have a legit way to test the range! This is my MOAN’s coverage area:


And this works well! The areas in red are areas that I’ve gotten coverage in before! Well done sir, well done.


#205

No problem. Glad I could help!


#206

Well, after lots of reading I took a stab at this. I am very new to this, but I have my heart set on building MOAN units. I bought 6 and plan to make 4 into repeater stations. One in my girlfriends car that parks on the roof of a garage in downtown silver spring during the day, one built into my work truck, and two at residences around Silver Spring MD.

I’m taking a guess here on where to attach to the board. Im hoping that I won’t suffer too bad a loss from being further down the fractional antenna. I did this in hopes to minimize the bend radius of the coax cable. I am also unsure if I need to bridge/bypass the C50 piece or not. Hopefully someone can clear this up for me. I wanted the SMA connector to be on the body of the unit and not a whip that hangs off. It would be interesting to have a whip antenna be able to be attached to this like a ham radio. I do have a FG9023 antenna on the way, hopefully it will be here in the next two days so I can start testing this. Once I test it, I do plan to remove the electrical tape and hit it with a ultrasonic welder. I so hope this works! Any advice is appreciated!


#207

People I have ZERO idea what any of you are talking about and yet I am so happy you are here strengthening this project and wearing awesome T shirts!
Mother of all nodes sounds AWESOME ( ok maybe o have a tiny idea what it is … like the mother of “ anything” is probably a mind blowing thing)

Love the Ts and the MOAN works


#208

You are detuning your antennas by having them that close together. I hope that is a pvc mast or fiberglass paint pole your using. Otherwise you your SWR is probably sky high. At a minimum you will distort the antenna pattern. Brian nb9e/kaf2088


#209

Here is the coverage area of the MOAN, just a heads up for y’all!


#210

With year-end, the Holiday Season behind us and extreme cold warnings the norm (today, it is -22C / -8F ambient and -34C / -29F with wind chill), it is time to throw a log on the fire and get focused on the MOAN.

Thanks and congrats to all on the continued progress!


#211

Just ordered one. Now to work on my antenna design, probably a collinear.


#212

Good info.
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Thanks !


#213

Not sure why this popped up here. I as responding to the info on choosing between the PCB fractal or the MMCX (yet to be added) connector.


#214

You should bridge the C50 capacitor. It is used to tune the fractial antenna’s reactance.


#215

I have seen that, but I have also seen that if one uses the connector (that one must put on) there is a pin on one of the chips that will disable the fractal and activate the MMCX connector.


#216

Correct. The antenna switcher can have 2 of it’s input pins switched and it will output the signal to the unpopulated mmcx conncector.


#217

Thanks. I refound it It is post 129 in this thread.


#218

The post was from Notjhon (THANKS) on 10/10/17.
The data sheet for the Si4460 is at
http://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da000814 (Thanks Notjhon again) I must study it better.


#219

If you are referring to Occidental college, I am an alum, You can probably just walk up the hill (They used to call it Mt Fuji) and see if there’s a good mounting spot. I still know some of the folks in the theater department there. The top of the fly tower is the tallest structure on that hill. There might be a way to rig something that you could plug in there… I could pass along their contact information if that building looks good to you.


#220

Thanks for the heads up. I did the C50 bypass tonight and mounted it in the attic. Lets hope for sucess!